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ICAMS FAQ


1. What does ICAMS stand for?

International Curly Approved Mare & Stallion studbook.

2. Why was ICAMS created?
To provide and apply a uniform rating &/or grading system that allows comparison of all ICHO Curly Horses in one universally recognizable & acceptable format. To recognize, identify, and track quality breeding stock and to encourage selection for improved quality and to develop qualifying Curly Horse Types toward breed status.

3. What is a studbook? Why have both a registry and a studbook?
There is a difference between Registries and Studbooks. But these terms are easily confused for two reasons: First, often are published birth registry listings (books) called "Stud Books", like the ABC "Stud Books", or Jockey Club Stud Books, even if the included horses are just registered horses and not stud book approved. Secondly, a Registry and a Stud Book often are connected and run by the same organization or association, with one of the requirements to be eligible for the stud book part is that the horse is entered into the registry part.

   Registry Definition: An inventory list of horses that share some traits or blood lines. The acceptance are most often based on non-qualitative criteria, and very seldom inspection. The most frequent criteria are: - pedigree (in closed registries), for instance arab, fjord etc. - color (or coat type :-), for instance pinto, paint, palomino - gait, for instance spotted saddle horse, american fox trotter. Most registries accept foals from when they are foaled, and as long as they meet the criteria, they can be of any quality. In the curly world, NACHR, ABCR and SACHF are such registries. NACHR has curly coat as their single criteria (or straight coat off a dominant curly parent). ABCR has pedigree (must be from two ABC registered horses), and curly coat (or straight non-stallions from two ABC full horses or and ABC full sire and ABC straight mare). SACHF has pedigree (must be an ABC or NACHR horse, or be out of two ABC or SACHF horses), and curly coat (or straight non-stallions). In Sweden the registry part is called "Grundstambok". The objective of a registry is to identify and track all eligible horses.

   Stud Book Definition: Accepts horses that meet specified quality criteria. Most often only stallions or mares are accepted, sometimes geldings also (to show the producing quality of its parents). Horses have to be inspected and rated and will be accepted if they meet or exceed the decided on rating level. Often veterinary inspections are required as well. Sometimes performance records are used as a substitute for inspection. Most European registries runs a stud book part also. The horses are inspected at official all-breed inspections or breed specific inspections. In Swedish the stud book part is called "Riksstambok". In the curly world, so far The Swedish SACHF is the only stud book. Among their criteria are: (1) the horse must be registered SACHF (registry part) (2) the horse should have been approved at an official inspection including approved ridden/driven test, and (3) passed a veterinary inspection (for stallions). The objective of a stud book is to identify, test, recognize and track good quality breeding stock, in order to sustain or improve the overall quality of the breed. In Europe, in a horse's life, most often it is submitted to a registry as a foal. Later, if the owner wants to use it for breeding, it is entered into an inspection and if approved, will apply for the stud book. There is legislation that prohibits use of unapproved stallions (with some exceptions). Mares are normally not required to be stud book accepted to be allowed to breed, but doing so will increase her value and the value of her foals. Horses will ideally be shown several times in their life, in order to advance in the rating levels. The better performance records they achieve, the more foals (of a certain quality), the higher rating they are eligible to receive. Normally they don't compete with the other horses entered at the same inspection, but they compete with a set standard.

4. What if my Curly Horse doesn't meet ICAMS minimal approval scores? Is that a death sentence for my breeding program? Does it mean my horse is worthless?
Parts of this FAQ is borrowed from the Connemara Pony Studbook FAQ, and is true of Curly Horses as well:
"No, no and no. First of all, a horse may ALWAYS be presented for re-inspection. But even if your horse never passes it will still be a REGISTERED Curly Horse, listed in the ICHO/NACHR (or ECHR) Registry ... It just will not appear in the Approved Section of the ICAMS Stud Book. And ... your horse's progeny would be eligible for inspection. Also many horses that fail ... go on to have wonderful performance careers. Seabiscuit, one of the best race horses of all time, would never have passed a conformation inspection!" Many Curly Horses presented for evaluation, will receive approval scores. The minimum scores are not rigid or set overly high. The Curly Horse that is sound and genetically fault free, and without serious conformation problems, will be approved. There are no competitive attitudes at evaluations, instead it is supportive and educational, and all learn together. The Curlies are not competing against each other, they are being evaluated in comparison to ideal horse conformation, which technically does not exist. When a Curly Horse is enrolled in a NACHIP (any voluntary North American Curly Horse Inspection Program) inspection, it will receive a score there. That score will be compatible with scores needed to apply to ICAMS. The owner has the option to then apply for approval to ICAMS with that score, or not. The owner already knows what the score is, and already has the educational information provided at the inspection. Plus, scores received below the ICAMS cutoff would not be published anywhere. Perhaps the higher scoring horses of the event might have their scores published. The scores would be sent to the ICAMS database.


5. How do I get my ICHO Curly Horse approved by ICAMS?

All horses applying to ICAMS must be inspected live. In North America, most will be inspected at a NACHIP event. Horses will be inspected for genetic health, conformation, movement, athletic ability, Curly breed character and temperament. It will include a ridden or driven test (optional in North America). If the scores are compatible with ICAMS, and if they meet or exceed the minimum requirements for ICAMS the horse will be approved if the owner applies to ICAMS. Previous inspection scores from other accredited functions may be included, or transferred into ICAMS grading format.

6. Do I have to have my horse inspected?
   Yes & No.
   NO:
Because enrolling your Curly Horse in a NACHIP inspection is totally optional.
   NO:
Because submitting the resulting NACHIP scores to ICAMS for approval is also totally optional.
   But ...
   YES:
if you want to apply to ICAMS, an inspection is required for ICAMS' approval.

7. Why would I want to submit my ICHO Curly Horse for inspection?
   Owners:
You might be interested in getting an objective, professional's opinion of what type your Curly is, and why. How well it is conformed and how suitable its movement and/or its athletic ability is for its type [form to function]. ICAMS will only recognize the world's most experienced and qualified horse professionals (in all equine fields), so that inspection scores will be as objective, educational, supportive and non-political as humanly possible.
   Breeders: An inspection gives you the opportunity to have your breeding Curly Horses professionally inspected for quality and ability. If you are breeding for a special type this is very valuable to help you reproduce quality consistent foals from inspected parents, generation to generation. You should not fear grading results, but only use them as a tool to help guide you in how to improve your next generation.
   Marketing: Every ICAMS approved Curly Horse will be receive an official ICAMS score record. That ICAMS score is in turn recognizable on an international scale for Type, Quality & Breed Genesis status. That gives it more international appeal when considering the high cost of shipping horses overseas (improves overall marketing potential for all concerned.)
   Value: You might want a professional evaluation done on a horse to help establish its value for legal or insurance purposes.
   Breed Status: Breed genesis supported by scientifically documented and sound genetic practice is the most responsible and credible way to present an "evolving breed" to the world equine community.

8. What are the specialized Types addressed in a NACHIP type inspection report?
     a. GENERAL SADDLE HORSE (Non-Specialized)
(Specialized:)
     b. SPORT
     c. STOCK
     d. PLEASURE (likely a type class we will find out)
     e. DRAFT

It is REQUIRED that an inspector address a Specialized Type (when it exists) for any Curly Horse s/he evaluates, however, many Curly Horses are non-specialized in type. For those few Curly Horses that show specialized type the judge will mark that on the scorecard, and has an area to make comments regarding form to function: The judge is encouraged to comment on that to help the owner and breeder pinpoint their particular successes and areas to work on. (Working with North American & European definitions, these 4 Specialized Types were singled out & defined to represent the wide variety of [prevalent] body styles, movement and athletic disciplines (abilities) exhibited in the Curly Horses of today. Other Curly Horse Types could form in the future if the need arose.)

The ICHO "Type" Clubs or Associations (formed now in North America) are going to be more activity oriented (i.e. Sporthorse supporting all horses competing in any sporthorse event, regardless of type - therefore any Homestead, Pleasure, Gaited or Classic ICAMS approved horse would be equally welcome to partake in the sport events) Similarly the ICHO Curly Western/Stockhorse Club would be supporting all working western horses regardless of type; Pleasure all pleasure/gaited type events; and Classic all endurance, versatile horses with participation in all events. The ponies cover all body types. We believe we need this overlap and division in labour because the reality is that most Curly Horses are quite versatile - a trait ICHO actively encourages.

9. How do I know what type my Curly is?
Most Curlies are not of any (specialized) type. Based on your Curly's conformation, movements, athletic ability and temperament, compare that to definitions of types listed. Look at the online Judging Handbook photo pages and compare there. It's origin, bloodlines, other breeds in pedigree might be a guiding factor. If you are still unsure, don't worry, the judges are experienced in judging different horse types and have that same manual to assess which type (if any special type) your horse is.

10. What if I am a breeder and my type of Curly interest is not listed?
Most Curlies fall into this category. Again, the typing is only optional for the judges anyway, and it is likely your curly is not a specialized type. All Curly Horses will be inspected for universal "good conformation" on the basis of the general NACHR breed description, and type notations may be included in the inspection. If your horse displayed ideal conformation, movement and aptitude for endurance racing for example, that should be noted by a judge on the scorecard.

11. Who will be the judges at ICAMS inspections?
Non Curly Horse people. Objective Judges who have extensive national or international recognition & respected credentials in multi-Type judging, as well as specialized discipline areas, such as sporthorse [many disciplines], working ranch horse, gaited horse, pleasure horse, etc. Judge's qualifications must meet international standards. Inspectors will be ICAMS certified if they meet this description.

12. Is a horse inspected through the CSI automatically eligible as an ICAMS Sport horse?
ICAMS must by definition be internationally accountable for all scores it awards or approves, so nothing is actually automatic. However the major responsibility of a studbook is to record all awards of accomplishment that a horse has earned. So with any horses approved by ICAMS its quality records from any previous judgings should be included in its ICAMS records, if they are presented in ICAMS compatible scoring format. ICAMS is setting up a system for fair and equitable translation of all quality records into a universal ICAMS scoring system format. International industry experts will guide GC in forming the most efficient and accurate method of translation possible. It is intended that quality data from any accredited organization or system should transfer quite seamlessly. Once ICAMS is established, CSI and any other organization can then apply for ICAMS sanctioning for their future inspections.

13. Will the judge(s) do a "run" around our countries each year, so we can reserve him/her when he/she is passing nearby... is that the plan?
That is certainly one possibility among many. There will probably be an annual ICAMS inspection at the ICHO Convention each fall. Other associations will be encouraged to hold as many ICAMS sanctioned inspections a year as possible to offer the closest possible events to everyone. The costs will be held down to a minimum.

14. Why do you already have stallions pictured on the ICAMS webpages? Are they already inspected and if not don't you think you should put all the stallions on there that are? Aren't you promoting one particular stallion/mare to establish the ideal for all others to conform to?
No. Just because we (actually I the weblackey) put photos up to illustrate variances in Type (to illustrate this for prospective judges/inspectors), doesn't mean we (GC) chose those horses as the one ideal to represent each type. It does NOT mean that, even if it does look that way. The purpose is to educate judges. In judging we are taught: there are more variations within the types, than there are between the types. That is such a fundamental truth in horses and all livestock, and it is very important to remember in ICAMS! Good conformation (and movement) is good - poor is poor. The variations in type are to be addressed to help breeders' goals when possible, but good horses of all types often have more similarities than they do differences.

15. I am not interested in ICAMS if its purpose is to regulate policy on the eligibility of Smooth Coated Curly Horses and "Crossbred" Curly Horses, etc.

ICAMS purpose is not to address these kinds of eligibility issues. In order for any Curly Horse to apply for ICAMS approval, it must first already be registered in one of ICHO's registering bodies. Thus, eligibility for any ICHO Curly Horse has already been determined by that Curly Horse's original registering body. ICHO Curly Horse nreed character will only be addressed by inspections in the function of applying a single universal grading system, but only for the purpose of definition, not for eligibility or exclusion.

16. It looks as though ICAMS is being formed and promoted by an exclusive group of sporthorse breeders in ICHO, and will not benefit other breeders of other programs, or other types or non-specialized types of Curly Horses. What good will that do us?
It is unfortunate if the Genesis Committee gives this illusion. That is neither true nor our intent. We have been commissioned by ICHO to form ICAMS - firstly to benefit international breeders and European Curly Horse Registry needs - and secondly, to provide a useful tool for North American breeders of ALL types of Curly Horses, to be able to use. It should be a very useful tool to have our Curly Horses compared to general equine correct conformation standards. There are always differences between types, but that does not prevent conformation weaknesses or flaws to be identified before they get overly propagated. Also, with so many horses being sold over the internet these days, an objective inspection for their quality and value would be very beneficial to both sellers and buyers. And even more exciting, it will be FUN to watch an objective horse expert who knows nothing about Curly Horses, inspect them. Many inspectors may be impressed with the bone, feet, overall health and constitution, and the surprisingly nice temperament. With such evaluations lending credibility to what we already know, Curly Horses will receive some overdue support in the outside horse industry, who will have a much harder time writing them off as just pasture ornaments.

17. One final concern - with ICAMS installing a new rating system - it will mean something in the very long term, but in the short term I wonder how many breeders with quality stock will be able to afford the costs involved. When they can't their stock won't get approved, their value won't increase, in fact they will somewhat decrease as they will now be measured against the stock that is "ICAMS approved" and yet they will still be out there on their own promoting the breed at every corner they turn.
The scenario you describe would not be very beneficial for anyone. Here is where all of your support and suggestions could help avoid that inefficiency. We want to work together. As ICAMS & the NACHIP program develops, we can arrange major collaboration efforts both within and outside the Curly Horse industry to avoid unnecessary duplication expenses for Curly Horse owners who are serious about investing in international quality grading of their horses. For example, get other inspection events ICAMS sanctioned. Also, in North America, ICAMS encourages hosts to hold costs down to a minimum for its members. The goal is to keep NACHIP & ICAMS affordable for all ICHO members who are interested in it.



ICAMS - ECHR - ICHO - Hierarchy


ICAMS & NACHIP.
NACHIP (North American Curly Horse Inspection Program) is simply an inspection program devised by Genesis Committee to demonstrate a viable Curly Horse inspection program for Curly Horses in North America. An inspection does not required to employ the exact NACHIP program protocol in order to produce scores eligible (compatible) for ICAMS application, however, if they do employ the NACHIP program, the scores are certain to be compatible for ICAMS application.

ECHIP. European Curly Horse Inspection program/s will evolve next, and must meet the more stringent needs for inspection standards in Europe. They may need additional divisions included in ICAMS, higher cutoff scores, and terms for different levels of grading.

ICAMS & ECHR - Horses get registered in their own European countries by the rules of that country. At the end of each year all horses registered domestically are entered in the ECHR, (European Curly Horse Registry) which keeps track of pedigrees and the breeder. Owner changes, stallion reports, etc., are kept in their own country. In this way ECHR will include all Curly Horses legally bred in Europe. A European Registrar will take care of ECHR business so papers will not have to be sent back and forth over the Atlantic. Horses bred in Europe are required to register in the ECHR if eligible and will not be included in the NACHR (unless they are exported to North America). When a horse has been inspected and approved at regional or national level, it may be entered in the International Curly Approved Mare & Stallions studbook (ICAMS).




ICAMS meets ICHO doctrine


      To anyone concerned that ICAMS is not consistent with the original intent of ICHO, please look at the original list on ICHO's vision statement. In the middle is "to encourage selective breeding to develop the highest quality Curly Horses." Right from the beginning all the founding members had in mind that there had to be a fair and open way to encourage breeders without closing registry books and regimenting breeders to something that someone else thought was the ideal curly.
     There have been many ways of looking at this concept, and ICAMS seems the most useful and least threatening. A breed studbook that is sponsored by an international breed registry is also understood & necessary in Europe. It is also the universally accepted method in the scientific / genetic community, used to responsibly develop world recognized breeds of horses / livestock. All curly horse breeders in North America will always be able to register any horse they produce in ICHO/NACHR, whether by outcrossing or breeding curly to curly as long as one parent is curly coated. There is no desire to ever touch that concept. If a breeder has a dream and wishes to follow it through, then ICHO/NACHR will register the offspring. Period.
     From that, should any horse prove to also be exceptional in the more generally recognized types and disciplines, then ICAMS will be an internationally recognized and approved way of tracking the generations of that type of breeding.
     While inspections are hardly perfect, they do provide an outside opinion that is supposed to be educated and unbiased. Since they are done by humans, that may not always prove to be as accurate as we might like, but there is no better way.
     Many curly horse people are new to horses in general. Many horses have been advertised as being 16 hands who are actually 15 hands, for example. Many have been advertised as being exceptional sporthorse prospects who are unable to overtrack, and the owners have no clue what that statement means, nor why it might be important.
     By developing some kind of a totally voluntary (with no intention of ever changing that, because to restrict the open registry in any way whatever would seriously weaken our base of potential new, high quality blood) we wish to provide our members with a way their stock can be critically evaluated and give the members the education that they will need to enhance their breeding programs in developing goals and directions.
     One thing I have noted over the several years I have participated on the chat lines is that new owners start with excitement over finding a super curly horse, then start to become educated in things that horses can do. Many end up changing directions several times and spend a lot of time searching for useful information. This process ICAMS program is intended to simplify the process of owners researching options, without in any way limiting their options.
     There is also, very seriously, the sales concept. Most horse registries provide some kind of official recognition/s of various achievements which purchasers can use in determining which horses will best fit their needs. If someone wishes to buy a young performance prospect, then their best option is to find one with several generations of proven success in that field, behind the individual who appears to have the correct conformation/temperament. Importing purchasers find it much easier to gain credibility if there is some way of ‘proving’ quality independently.
     In short, there have been efforts working diligently from before ICHO was incorporated to figure out how to achieve the goals ICAMS is addressing without ever putting any restrictions on ICHO members. With ICAMS functioning quite separately in most ways from ICHO, this method seems the best of all options considered. Originally the associations were supposed to do the job, but that approach proved too unwieldy.
     I hope this answers some questions and helps members realize ICAMS is no threat to their approach, no matter what that approach is, and that it will be there to provide information and support to any member at any time that member becomes interested – without demanding in any way that any member ever become interested. It is a method of achieving our vision – "to encourage selective breeding to develop the highest quality Curly Horses" – without legislating that anyone has to use ICAMS to achieve that or embrace that concept, at any time, either now or in the future.
     Andrea Schaap, DVM (Genesis Committee member & Chair, ICHO research committee)





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